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I have under 2k miles and my seat looks exactly the same. Big bubble in the same spot as yours. I noticed mine in the first 200 miles. I don't think its as much the quality of the leather as it is a combination of the quality of the foam in the seat and fitment of the leather over the seat. The fitment should be tighter and the foam should be more dense IMHO.
 
From the picture it looks like your drivers seat is similar to mine; bubbling on the center seat cushion and minor to intermediate creasing on the outside bolster in particular. Im not happy with the amount of wear on mine so I wasn't sure if the picture is making it look worse?
Don't forget those pictures were taken when it was about -5 F as I took them to document the temporary bubbling on center console. So I think the "bubble" you're seeing in center of seat maybe from contraction of foam or frozen moisture in the seat. As for the creasing, if that's bugging you, well, have you tried yoga? I assume there will be some form fitting as the seat gets used to my shapely but slightly larger than necessary butt.
 
I have under 2k miles and my seat looks exactly the same. Big bubble in the same spot as yours. I noticed mine in the first 200 miles. I don't think its as much the quality of the leather as it is a combination of the quality of the foam in the seat and fitment of the leather over the seat. The fitment should be tighter and the foam should be more dense IMHO.
This is what I think as well.
 
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hello, I have almost 8000 mile sin my face first edition, , in my personal opinion I have use jeans, almost everything and my seats still looks the same, I believe that form is because of the wallet or the change of temperature I don't know, but mine looks good still after almost 8000 miles. I do take proper care of my car as well the interior.
 
This will be a deal breaker for me, if JLR does not fix it for the 2018 US models. And that would be a shame, because the car is so beautiful, and gets superlative reviews (I know, because I have seen them all :) ).

On a related note, how exactly does one produce or procure "thin" leather? From skinny cows? I had a Disco that still reeked of that nice Corinthian leather when it was ten years old.
 
hello, I have almost 8000 mile sin my face first edition, , in my personal opinion I have use jeans, almost everything and my seats still looks the same, I believe that form is because of the wallet or the change of temperature I don't know, but mine looks good still after almost 8000 miles. I do take proper care of my car as well the interior.
The FE uses higher grade leather than that found in the lower trims.
 
The FE uses higher grade leather than that found in the lower trims.
On the seats yes, but the bolsters will still wrinkle a bit. Unfortunately, the center armrest in the FE is the same onion skin thin cheap leather that's in the other variants. Mine is peeling already after 8 months and about 8500 miles. My right arm rests on it quite often. The center armrest in my Lexus GS had thick, rich comfortably padded leather. In three years and 34,000 miles, not a single crease or peel.
 
Okay, a crazy but interesting question just occurred to me. Does leather mean what it traditionally used to in this context? For example, I got my wife a nice ostrich leather sunglasses case in South Africa.

This could explain the thin leather I suppose, but I really have no idea, nor have I sat in one of these Jags. My Disco seats were good though. Just hoping this seat issue goes away.
 
This is why I have been struggling with deciding whether to purchase a F-Pace or a Macan. I love the exterior look of the F-Pace and prefer it over the Macan but the Macan's interior fit and finish is so much nicer than the F-Pace. I'm moving towards an F-Pace order but threads like this make me think twice about moving forward.
 
I highly doubt JLR will be changing the leather or the seats for 2018. Has anyone seen any reports of owners having JLR replace the leather or the seats under warranty because of this issue? I pushed my dealer prior to accepting delivery and got nowhere. They claimed it was "normal." Overall, I doubt there will be many significant changes in 2018 because the car just came out and it sold well. If Jaguar is like other manufacturers, I would expect some noteworthy changes with a mid-cycle refresh in a few years.

I had a different impression of the Macan interior. I sat in a GTS and thought it looked very dated. It was obvious to me that Porsche focused more on performance than designing a state of the art interior. Also, like I said in other threads, I personally view the Macan as more of a feminine vehicle. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but that really doesn't suit me. On a positive note, according to reviews, it seems to handle well and even better than the FP.
 
EagleJag, I agree the F-Pace interior is more modern looking but the seats on the Macan are more supportive and the leather seems better. Also the leather on the dash and driver surrounding areas on the Macan seem higher quality than the F-Pace. Interesting that you think it is more of a feminine vehicle is that because of the exterior look?
 
EagleJag, I agree the F-Pace interior is more modern looking but the seats on the Macan are more supportive and the leather seems better. Also the leather on the dash and driver surrounding areas on the Macan seem higher quality than the F-Pace. Interesting that you think it is more of a feminine vehicle is that because of the exterior look?
Interesting. I wouldn't be surprised about the Macan having higher quality interior materials. But when I was in it, it was the layout and infotainment system that struck me as a bit dated. And, to answer your question, I mostly see women driving Macans in my area and when I spoke to the Porsche salesman about it, he kinda of laughed and reminded me that there are "some guys" that buy Macans. So it may - depending on who you talk to - have a certain reputation (perhaps, based in part, on the exterior look). But I want to me clear about something. In no way am I knocking any male Macan driver. My point is that I felt the car just wasn't for me. But car preference is personal, so my advice is just to get what you want and be happy with it.
 
On the seats yes, but the bolsters will still wrinkle a bit. Unfortunately, the center armrest in the FE is the same onion skin thin cheap leather that's in the other variants. Mine is peeling already after 8 months and about 8500 miles. My right arm rests on it quite often. The center armrest in my Lexus GS had thick, rich comfortably padded leather. In three years and 34,000 miles, not a single crease or peel.
Totally agree, Lexus knows what they are doing when it comes to interior fit and finish. I personally think they do the best interior in the luxury market (excluding high end brands like Bentley and Rolls Royce of course). They are not the most technologically advanced but boy are their interiors pure comfort. Jaguar should really take a note from Lexus book when updating their interiors.
 
..I personally think they do the best interior in the luxury market...
What's that saying again...there's no accounting for taste?...and preference is indeed personal. The problem for me with with the German makes is that all of their cars and interiors, with few exceptions, are soulless...technical marvels and nice materials...but utterly devoid of passion. Same with the Japanese makes. How many Lexus interiors apart from those of current models, are talked about or remembered? They don't come up in any car talks I engage in. And how many Jags other than an F-Pace have you actually spent time in? My guess is probably very few. Nobody does wood and leather better than the British. And one never grows tired of these classic interiors with personality plus. Jag's recent switch to these modern minimalist but classy interiors is a real pendulum swing for them. I think the new F-Pace interior, at least on the FE I own, is special...as do most of us FP owners. But materials and finishes are not top drawer everywhere the eye looks. And they do not hold a candle to the extraordinary interiors of it's stablemate and big brother the XJL. That is an interior design that is hard to beat in terms of making you feel really special every time you get in and turn the key.

IMHO >:)
 
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I highly doubt JLR will be changing the leather or the seats for 2018. Has anyone seen any reports of owners having JLR replace the leather or the seats under warranty because of this issue? I pushed my dealer prior to accepting delivery and got nowhere. They claimed it was "normal." Overall, I doubt there will be many significant changes in 2018 because the car just came out and it sold well. If Jaguar is like other manufacturers, I would expect some noteworthy changes with a mid-cycle refresh in a few years.

I had a different impression of the Macan interior. I sat in a GTS and thought it looked very dated. It was obvious to me that Porsche focused more on performance than designing a state of the art interior. Also, like I said in other threads, I personally view the Macan as more of a feminine vehicle. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but that really doesn't suit me. On a positive note, according to reviews, it seems to handle well and even better than the FP.
I started this thread and my pictures are on page 1. I brought this issue to Jaguar corporate and on several occasions to my dealer. The dealer has been great about everything but I was told that Jaguar will not even address this or consider it an issue until the vehicle is owned for at least a year. Apparently, this is a very sensitive subject to them but I won't give up. There is no excuse for these seats to look this this after four months and I am not a big guy. I think it might it may also be worse in the seats that are both heated and ventilated cool. Seriously, mine look like they are 10 years old already.
 
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I started this thread and my pictures are on page 1. I brought this issue to Jaguar corporate and on several occasions to my dealer. The dealer has been great about everything but I was told that Jaguar will not even address this or consider it an issue until the vehicle is owned for at least a year. Apparently, this is a very sensitive subject to them but I won't give up. There is no excuse for these seats to look this this after four months and I am not a big guy. I think it might it may also be worse in the seats that are both heated and ventilated cool. Seriously, mine look like they are 10 years old already.
A little concerning, just picked my S last weekend with heated/vented seats. Just breezed thru the thread, but have you visited an Upholstery shop? They might be able to steam the seat and get the seat cover stretched. The dealer should pay for that until they get the seat cover replaced.
 
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A little concerning, just picked my S last weekend with heated/vented seats. Just breezed thru the thread, but have you visited an Upholstery shop? They might be able to steam the seat and get the seat cover stretched. The dealer should pay for that until they get the seat cover replaced.
Not a bad idea but should I really have to? This issue is not worth making a big deal over except that it looks bad. A few people have asked me what I keep in my back pocket. The answer is nothing. Ever. So I have to assume it may be taking the impression of a pocket? My F Pace has pretty much had every issue go wrong to date and JLR has been pretty good about everything so I do believe they will eventually have to take this issue seriously. ICTP and the creaky rear end were the major issues for me and both addressed and repaired. I'm not too worried about it.
 
What's that saying again...there's no accounting for taste?...and preference is indeed personal. The problem for me with with the German makes is that all of their cars and interiors, with few exceptions, are soulless...technical marvels and nice materials...but utterly devoid of passion. Same with the Japanese makes. How many Lexus interiors apart from those of current models, are talked about or remembered? They don't come up in any car talks I engage in. And how many Jags other than an F-Pace have you actually spent time in? My guess is probably very few. Nobody does wood and leather better than the British. And one never grows tired of these classic interiors with personality plus. Jag's recent switch to these modern minimalist but classy interiors is a real pendulum swing for them. I think the new F-Pace interior, at least on the FE I own, is special...as do most of us FP owners. But materials and finishes are not top drawer everywhere the eye looks. And they do not hold a candle to the extraordinary interiors of it's stablemate and big brother the XJL. That is an interior design that is hard to beat in terms of making you feel really special every time you get in and turn the key.

IMHO >:)
At least the Germans and Japanese aren't talked about for having used shi**y materials in their cars. If you were to buy a 60 thousand dollar car from any German, Korean or Japanese competitor you would not find the horribly cheap materials you find in the pace. I think its better to not be mentioned then to be mentioned in this case. And I have been an in XF and XE; same materials used across the board (haven't been in an XJ so can't comment).

I love Jaguars design and I LOVE my F-pace, but its hard to deny Jag went cheap on everything belt-line down. When I said Lexus does the best interior in the luxury market I was referring to materials only, I wish Jaguar and Lexus would collaborate on interiors haha.
 
I started this thread and my pictures are on page 1. I brought this issue to Jaguar corporate and on several occasions to my dealer. The dealer has been great about everything but I was told that Jaguar will not even address this or consider it an issue until the vehicle is owned for at least a year. Apparently, this is a very sensitive subject to them but I won't give up. There is no excuse for these seats to look this this after four months and I am not a big guy. I think it might it may also be worse in the seats that are both heated and ventilated cool. Seriously, mine look like they are 10 years old already.
My driver's seat had a wrinkled bolster at 19 miles - before I picked the car up or ever sat in it. My comment to the dealer was if it looks like this at 19 miles, what's it going to look like after 1,000 miles or 5,000 miles?! If it was a purchase instead of a lease, I may not have accepted delivery.
 
Well this won't apply to most of you, but I had a 1990 so-called "cab forward" vehicle and the seats turned to ch*t rather quickly. At the end of the day, the seats were the most miserable part of the car. I made a vow to myself, never again. I really don't want the F-Pace to go down this road. I can pay a little extra for quality seats. If they are where I and my passengers sit for a big part of the day, it is kind of important, isn't it?
 
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