Not correct, every single measurable performance metric gets worse as you go larger in diameter. This is a well known, well documented, fact that cant be argued away because physics works. C/D tested this exact car in both configurations showing those results while surprising absolutely no one because the math cant be circumvented. This despite having the weaker all-season rubber. Had the 20s been shod with similar rubber rather than the weaker all-seasons the 22s would have simply been beaten by a larger margin because there can be no other result. Similarly if you stepped down to 19s of similar construction and ran them with the same rubber they would outperform the 20s. This is why all the track rats over on the M3 forums, corvette forums, etc downsize from factory and you see the threads titled "Which 18" wheels will clear "X" brakes?" They do it because unsprung weight is a killer. Just to frame it in another way, stepping up from 20 to 22s is going to add about 10 lbs of unsprung per wheel with a wheel of the same type and brand. That is equivelent to duct taping a 10lb barbell to each wheel because the extra diameter serves no purpose, it's nothing more than extra weight that must be started in motion, kept in motion, stopped, turned, and suspended. And you t hink this is going to be a good thing how?

I get that some like larger wheels for the look. I'm fine with that it's their money and their choice but a lot of people on this type of forum are not aware what they are losing by choosing them in some cases this is because of information such as what you posted which is not correct. OEMs put them on cars because people like the look and wheel options are a huge profit item with high uptake. I'm not completely immune to it myself, I think those E92s with 18s look a little odd and it's not a choice I would make. I would be making that choice understanding it though, not in ignorance. It's all good if you go in eyes open.

 

While this is accurate for the issue at hand, remember it isn't a universal rule that applies proportionally. EX: If you put 14" wheels on the F Pace, it will likely (read: surely) handle worse than 18" or 20", for many reasons.

 

It's all good. I do know that my 22's on my Cat run smoother than my 35's on this.

 

Ditto!

 

In the case of ride harshness it isn't a matter of viewpoint, 22" wheels ride harsher with the same rubber while suspended the same way because physics will allow for no other result. There are of course a lot of different viewpoints on whether the increased ride harshness, loss of performance in every measurable objective metric, increased instances of wheel damage, lower wheel control, and other downsides of increasing wheel size are a nerf worth taking for those who prefer the esthetic.

 

carbman, you really hate 22 inch wheels. What did those 22s ever do to you?

I get the slight performance hit in zero to 60 and maybe even a slight MPG hit, but for the most part 22s are going to out perform 20s in handling with the same tire on both wheels. I'm a fan of my 22s and with the proper light load air pressure, they ride perfectly fine over pretty much all roads.

I'm not against going with 20s though if you really want a plusher ride, because 20s are going to give you better ride characteristics but with the pickup of some bounciness due to the taller side wall rubber. Also with the weight of the F-Pace, if you get aggressive in the corners, you will get tire squeal due to those taller sidewalls as well.]

I think this was already stated, but the suspension is the same on all F-Paces with like options whether you are shod with 20s or 22s. The diameter of both 20s and 22s are very close due to the tire sizes used, so I'm pretty sure you don't need to do anything for your speedometer.

 

It looks like it sits higher on 20" wheels because it's an optical illusion. You notice the gap between the wheel and fender easily, but your mind doesn't see the tire that is taller on 20" wheels.

 

I figured that is why they use the Lower Profile Summer Tires on the 22's , so that the OVERALL *Diameter* of wheel and tire , would be the same as the 20's with the Taller Side Wall All Seasons , to fit under the wheel well the same !!! Is this correct ???

 

Ian Callum the F Pace designer said before the car went into production that the car/suspension was designed around 20" wheels. Since the 22's are virtually the diameter there is essentially no difference except for a somewhat improved handling perspective and a slightly harsher ride. But again the ride on the 22's is very subjective based on who you talk to.

 

Welcome, did you look at Tire Rack? The 20's and 22's have the same outside wheel diameter within 1/2 inch so it is just an illusion that the car sits lower. The 22's are a bit wider so an alignment would be in your best interest. Look in this section and you will see members who have purchased after market wheels that might be to your liking. BTW the 1st F Paces were delivered the end of May last year.

 

2. Suspension: So I notice that my car sits high on my 20" wheels. The F-Pace's that I have seen on 22" wheels almost look like they are slightly lowered. Is there any difference in the stock suspension/springs/ride height from the factory with 20" vs 22"?

Maybe just an optical illusion, but I thought the exact same thing.

I'm also considering moving to 22s. Of course, there are opposing views on whether the 22s provide a harsh ride.

 

Genuine 22 inch wheels are now sold on ebay!

 

Not currently unfortunately.

 

Here's a member with after market wheels for sale.

After Market Wheels for Sale

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/282420002521

https://www.ebay.com/itm/282448182791

 

Unfortunately, both in the United Kingdom. Would be seriously interested in the second set, Helix Silver, if they were in U.S.

 

https://www.autocar.co.uk/opinion/m...-shows-frankfurt-motor-show/why-22-inch-wheels-are-right-fit-jaguars-new-f-pace

F-Pace engineers Andy Whyman and Dave Shaw said that the bigger wheels had not meant a lower profile tyre, and that the F-Pace’s 22in wheel offered “superior grip, comfort and greater sidewall protection than rival 20in wheels”.


Does anyone have the weights for the jaguar wheels across the board? I went on discount tire looking at tire weights and found the 22's are the same if not less weight than the 20's. I want proof that going from 20's to 22's is a 10lb disadvantage.

 

FWIW - I originally test drove and ordered 20" wheels on a MY2018 build but ended up accepting delivery of a MY 2018 with 22's. (Long story; see post #303 under "Earliest Delivery MY2018" thread). I had reservations about the 22's and test drove before I agreed to them. Once the tire pressure was reduced to proper levels from the 53psi they came off the truck with, I found the difference in ride/handling between the 20's and 22's to be only slightly noticeable. My apprehension was completely relieved and I had no qualms taking delivery with the 22's. While I have only logged about 500 miles, I haven't given this a second thought. As noted elsewhere, this is admittedly a most subjective issue and preference. Now, my only wheel related thoughts are whether to try to find black lug nuts to go with my black rims and replace the chrome lug nuts it came with. I thought at first notice perhaps this was an oversight but I have seen a number of pix on the forum of chrome nuts (lug) on black rims.

 

Keeping the overall outer tire diameter constant (or close to it), do we know for which rim size the suspension was tuned? I'm hearing the 20's; but do we know?

 

I haven't seen anything specific to the F-Pace posted. Just assumptions, except for what i posted.

 

I too wonder about the suspension. I have a S with 22"s. I don't really care for the large wheels and the one's I do like I think are 18's or 19's. I know they are smaller. I want to lower the car by about 2". So I was thinking that changing the wheels will buy me some of that but I'd also like to tighten up on the wheel well gap a little so I thought lowering springs, and I see they have someone selling them as aftermarket now. But then I thought that the springs on different trim levels and wheel configurations might very. I realize some people say that the suspension is the same but that's not true of the shocks, there are at least 2 different shock options and from what I can tell, there are several different coil spring options. It appears there are 5 different coil spring options for at least the rear. They are color coded. So if there are different shocks, depending on trim/features, and there are different springs, then i don't think the suspension is the "same". IMHO. I wish there was a way to find out the difference between these springs. I could probably accomplish what I want by just swapping OEM coils. Heck, the aftermarket lowering springs may just be OEM springs with the color code tags removed and marketed by someone that has a better understanding of the individual coil part numbers.

 

I too wonder about the suspension. I have a S with 22"s. I don't really care for the large wheels and the one's I do like I think are 18's or 19's. I know they are smaller. I want to lower the car by about 2". So I was thinking that changing the wheels will buy me some of that ............

Smaller wheels won't buy you anything as the diameter of the tire is the same (side wall is larger with smaller wheel). If perchance you found a smaller tire it would change your speedometer (MPH).

 

I know this is an old thead but I have some info and questions about this now.
We have a 2021 regular trim Fpace 250. We built it online and ordered it so we we able to add exactly what we wanted. The only things we added were the 22" black wheels/tires, fog lights, and black appearance package. Choosing the wheels we had to add a separate package (forget what its called) but that was it.
Fast forward to now 3.5 years later and the rear of the car started to sound loud. We took it into the dealer and both rear shocks are completely blown out and need replacement. Luckily it's under warranty.
But this is making me wonder. The shocks must be different. My wife drives this car so easy there's no way she would have been the reason they were blown out. She actually annoys me when I'm with her because she always uses ECO mode lol.
There's a few reasons I'm considering buying another vehicle now that this is soon out of warranty. So looking to get some answers and find out are my front shocks going to blow out as well eventually because of the 22s?