go to tirerack.com and plug in your F-pace details. It will give you a nice selection of 20" tires to choose from. It will list winter tires first...but scroll down to all-season and summer. I have used the Michelin Latitude series before on previous HP SUV's...they are rated very well. The one listed is an all-season version. They show a summer HP version on page 2, Michelin Latitude Diamaris. Your F-Pace likely came with Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric AT's. They are good all season tires and decent performance. I really see no reason why you should incur the expense of replacing them now given your stated driving habits.Do we need performance tires on our F Pace cars? I don't drive fast under any conditions.
I hate to think that I'll get 30K and need a new set. Is there a 20" tire that is not HP that will do well? If so what brand is best?
Why would you go to the expense and trouble of changing the OEM Tire. Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric AT's are the only tires that come with 20 Inch rims and are specifically designed for the Jaguar F Pace. Presumably the engineers spent time and effort getting this tire just right for this vehicle. Why screw it up?go to tirerack.com and plug in your F-pace details. It will give you a nice selection of 20" tires to choose from. It will list winter tires first...but scroll down to all-season and summer. I have used the Michelin Latitude series before on previous HP SUV's...they are rated very well. The one listed is an all-season version. They show a summer HP version on page 2, Michelin Latitude Diamaris. Your F-Pace likely came with Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric AT's. They are good all season tires and decent performance. I really see no reason why you should incur the expense of replacing them now given your stated driving habits.
if you live in an area that doesn't get cold, icy or snowy, you are quiet fine with these Eagles. If you live in Florida for example, switching to summer HP tires will improve on the already excellent response from the F-Pace's steering and roadholding. But we are talking subtle changes that many won't even notice.
Hope this helps.
I agree with you for the most part but not on the summer tire being the best for wet traction. I had for a number of years a Nissan 300zx Twin Turbo and it was stored each winter. The tires were always hp summer tires rated the same as the OEM Michelin tires.A couple points here.
Summer tires typically provide the best dry and WET traction that there is along with excellent comfort and noise ratings. The trouble is they also provide the absolute worst performance once the temperature goes below 40deg F (hence the name) and the shortest tread life. You should never drive a car on them in winter conditions (regardless of the amount of snow but that of course is even worse). All season tires use different materials so that the rubber doesn't get hard in the cold like summer tires and typically last longer. They do make performance all season tires and generally they work well. Winter tires are the softest of them all and should only be used at temps below 40deg F (if you want them to last more than a few months).
AWD vehicles tend to provide a bit of a false sense of security in the winter as many people think their car/SUV can handle anything and they proceed to treck out in 10" of snow without a care in the world. AWD only helps you accelerate, stopping an turning are another thing. If you get a lot of snow, winter tires are the best option. Many all seasons will work ok and get you to where you are going, but please don't expect that because you have an awesome AWD SUV you can rally it up on the streets in snow. Generally speaking RWD car on snow with winter tires will handle better than an AWD vehicle on all seasons. I have a RWD Merc and it is pretty much un-drivable in the snow with A/S tires, and with its winter shoes on it works better than my sisters AWD SUV on A/S tires.
You really can't make a blanket statement like one brand will give you better life than another. Each tire is its own entity and things like materials, tread depth/pattern, speed rating and tread life ratings define what they are. Tire manufacturers have to put their tread ware test result on each and every tire. Take a look it is the UTQG rating right next to or below the size. The GoodYear F1 Asymmetric (standard tire for the FP with 20" wheels) is a pretty good SUV tire in terms of noise, comfort, and performance but the expected tread life isn't that great: UTQG: 240 AA A Here the number 240 is a standardized number that predicts how long they will last. Most All seson tires are up there in the 400 - 600 range. Like the Pirelli Scorpion Zero which is at 400. The tread ware rating isn't nearly as scientific as they would like you to believe so there is a grain of salt type acceptance needed, but for sure a 400 is going to last longer than a 240, but probably at the cost of grip or other performance characteristics.
All this is right there at tirerack.com and it is laid out pretty well in their tire tech and ratings/reviews and test results so don't take my word for it, look it up.
For the record, just making sure I am clear on this, I am not advocating that the thread starter go through the expense of changing his Goodyear Eagle OEM tires. Just giving him resources to use while investigating what he wants to do. If anything, I am about ready to just get rid of my F-Pace R-Sport, wheels, tires and all, for something that is better made, reliable and it's electronics work as intended. :-(Why would you go to the expense and trouble of changing the OEM Tire. Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric AT's are the only tires that come with 20 Inch rims and are specifically designed for the Jaguar F Pace. Presumably the engineers spent time and effort getting this tire just right for this vehicle. Why screw it up?
Sorry to hear that.For the record, just making sure I am clear on this, I am not advocating that the thread starter go through the expense of changing his Goodyear Eagle OEM tires. Just giving him resources to use while investigating what he wants to do. If anything, I am about ready to just get rid of my F-Pace R-Sport, wheels, tires and all, for something that is better made, reliable and it's electronics work as intended. :-(
That's cool. But no annoyance is minor to me when I dropped almost $70K on a vehicle...when other car manufactures can do it better and at lower price points. To add insult to injury, the Intel Automotive division which was involved in developing InControl for Jaguar is located right here in downtown Portland...blocks away from the dealership. Despite 2 software updates, satellite radio still freezes erratically, park distance control doesn't work and when it does, you are about inches from hitting something, back up camera is sometimes slow to come up, black screens, the list goes on.Sorry to hear that.
I have ICTP and 360 degree camera.
Still can not adjust volume when in rear drive and the rear camera screen only has left and right yellow land markers but that is compensated for by the side screen on the right that has makers all around a depiction of a vehicle.
Also the motion detector for the rear hatch opening and closing is a bit balky but works.
After software upgrade last week at the dealer, the screen seems much more responsive.
These are minor annoyances to me.
In how many threads must you post this same comment. We get it. No need to triple+ post. :|Got faulty isolators replaced (suspension creak had started at 1300 miles)...go to pick up car and service advisor tells me disturbing news that this might not be the fix-all on some cars...well, 2 nights ago, while driving 25 mph and going over a speed hump...a LOUD clunk like a spring just let go coming from the rear of the car. Rattle/buzz has also developed from the dash now. Who knows what's next.
Happened to be in a dialogue on emails with a leading automotive journalist in Canada and he advises me that their is likely a major upgrade in the software coming in October. So hang in there.That's cool. But no annoyance is minor to me when I dropped almost $70K on a vehicle...when other car manufactures can do it better and at lower price points. To add insult to injury, the Intel Automotive division which was involved in developing InControl for Jaguar is located right here in downtown Portland...blocks away from the dealership. Despite 2 software updates, satellite radio still freezes erratically, park distance control doesn't work and when it does, you are about inches from hitting something, back up camera is sometimes slow to come up, black screens, the list goes on.
This week alone...car refused to lock..even with fob. No doors or hatch ajar...I opened and closed everything and then it locked. Got faulty isolators replaced (suspension creak had started at 1300 miles)...go to pick up car and service advisor tells me disturbing news that this might not be the fix-all on some cars...well, 2 nights ago, while driving 25 mph and going over a speed hump...a LOUD clunk like a spring just let go coming from the rear of the car. Rattle/buzz has also developed from the dash now. Who knows what's next.
From a quick google search, I think these are correct. Pirelli sells some tires that are asymmetrical, some that are directional, and some that are both. Asymmetrical tires will have tread that varies from outside of the rim to inside of the rim, but be the same across all four wheels and OK rotating in either direction. This lets you swap wheels left / right when you rotate for even tread wear. I think yours fall in this category.I can't see this conversation coming up in any previous thread so here it goes..
I recently got a second set of these Pirelli P Zero summer tires and all 4 are the same, so the tread grooves the same on all 4 tires?