[Flyby40]

Just saw that the service intervals for oil changes are 16K miles or once every 12 months. I've never had a car go that long with out an oil change. So far cars I've owned the longest intervals have been 7500 Miles or 6 months and by then the oil has appeared to be pretty dirty especially during the initial break in period. I guess I could always take it in earlier at my own expense. But maybe its just me being overly worried and there is no issue with newer vehicles running longer distances between changes especially when running synthetic. - "A Service Interval Indicator appears every 16,000 miles or every 12 months"

 

[Pseudonym]

Wow, thought my TDI was long at 10k/12 mos.

 

[uncheel]

The longer interval is because Jaguar uses a specially formulated synthetic oil in the AJ126 V6. The "bad news" is that your friendly local Jaguar dealer is the only place you can officially get the formulation that meets factory specs. Some have found it other places, but there are limited alternatives. And, you're not like to do it yourself unless you have your own oil extraction setup - there is no drain plug. After the free maintenance window, figure about $150 for an oil change/filter. (Some have reported dealer charging more.)

Meanwhile, the more fastidious among us will still do an early change at about 3k miles, just to clear out any metal particles from break-in. That unscheduled change will be out-of-pocket.

 

[Flyby40]

Meanwhile, the more fastidious among us will still do an early change at about 3k miles, just to clear out any metal particles from break-in. That unscheduled change will be out-of-pocket.

I'm thinking of going this route as well.

 

[JWreck]

That's crappy. Audi has the first oil change at 5k (break in) then every 10k after.

 

[Trek]

Just saw that the service intervals for oil changes are 16K miles or once every 12 months. I've never had a car go that long with out an oil change. So far cars I've owned the longest intervals have been 7500 Miles or 6 months and by then the oil has appeared to be pretty dirty especially during the initial break in period. I guess I could always take it in earlier at my own expense. But maybe its just me being overly worried and there is no issue with newer vehicles running longer distances between changes especially when running synthetic. - "A Service Interval Indicator appears every 16,000 miles or every 12 months"

Saves JLR money on free maintenance. Fewer visits, less cost to JLR. They're no dummies.

 

[kris]

The longer interval is because Jaguar uses a specially formulated synthetic oil in the AJ126 V6. The "bad news" is that your friendly local Jaguar dealer is the only place you can officially get the formulation that meets factory specs.

The Jaguar site just recommends Castrol Edge oil. Guess this would be available outside the dealership.

Jaguar and Castrol Partnership - Co-engineering Quality Oil

Just checked- it is $75 for a 3 pk 5 qt at walmart

 

[MKenM]

......Meanwhile, the more fastidious among us will still do an early change at about 3k miles, just to clear out any metal particles from break-in. That unscheduled change will be out-of-pocket.

With no drain plug it will be near to impossible to remove and metal particles from the oil pan. The only hope would be to catch them in the oil filter.

I have been doing my own oil changes for years and have been fortunate enough to have not found any metal in the oil.

 

[torontoadvocate]

Just checked the on line manual also and agree with Kris. Readily available at any auto parts store or auto parts department.
Same oil recommended for BMW which I drive presently, although I am not sure if the grade is the same, as I have not bothered to check.
BMW also recommends once a year for low mileage drivers like myself. I do two changes a year to be safe. Most mechanics who work on BMWs outside of the dealerships recommend twice a year for low mileage drivers.
I am going to follow the same procedure with the F Pace, twice a year. For me to spend an extra $100 to $150 a year when I have spent major dollars on a vehicle is cheap protection and peace of mind. I just don't reset the oil change indicator when I do the interim oil and filter change.
I am not familiar yet with the recommended Jaguar service schedule but like my BMW I am sure I will be doing extra maintenance. For instance BMW does not even recommend a coolant change anymore. My coolant has been changed at the 2.5 year interval and as is due again if I was keeping the vehicle. Brake fluid has been changed at 40,000 kilometers, transmission fluid would be changed shortly I now have 55,000 kilometers on the vehicle but for the trade in. BMW has no recommended transmission fluid change interval. For me all of this is inexpensive insurance or maybe I am just paranoid?
As for the cost of this extra servicing at least in the USA, do not go to the dealer, find a specialist in Jaguar and get the vehicle serviced there. I have already located a three or four shops in the Toronto area that only service JLR and I will try them out and settle ultimately on one or two for my servicing. In Canada we do not get complimentary servicing so other than warranty work I do not plan on going to the dealer. What I need to do is to keep a meticulous record of the servicing and make sure the shop follows all recommended procedures and notes all servicing done on my vehicle on the invoice/work order, in case I need warranty work.

 

[JWreck]

Fortunately anything in the scheduled maintenance list is covered here in the USA. But I'll agree that if it's only a once a year or more than 10k mile interval I'll end up doing two a year.

Curious to see what the transmission fluid change interval is on the F Pace...anyone know? My dual clutch S4 is every 36k but covered by Audi with Audicare (similar to what Jag is offering just not free). I imagine the conventional ZF on the F Pace a much higher change interval.

 

[Pseudonym]

Fortunately anything in the scheduled maintenance list is covered here in the USA. But I'll agree that if it's only a once a year or more than 10k mile interval I'll end up doing two a year.

Curious to see what the transmission fluid change interval is on the F Pace...anyone know? My dual clutch S4 is every 36k but covered by Audi with Audicare (similar to what Jag is offering just not free). I imagine the conventional ZF on the F Pace a much higher change interval.

Not sure but just want to say how fantastic the DSG is, lightning fast shifts. VW has their stuff together with the DSG/PDK tranny, I know the ZF has gotten good reviews but I wish we could get a dual clutch.

 

[billium39]

when I had my BMW lease they wouldn't even touch your oil until at least 12k, anywhere from 12-15k. My VW was the same thing 12-15k. Thats the norm with service now, I will usually change mine on my own every 5k which is a little overkill, but o well.

 

[hookah]

As it was mentioned, is pretty much the norm now days for synthetic oil.
Range Rover V8 engine, oil changes are every 24 000 km ( 15k miles).
You can see in here a lot of people used to change oil on Toyota's every 5000 km.


Pseudonym --actually the PDK transmission is a ZF too. Dual clutch...but is a ZF.

ZF makes a very high % of transmission now days.

 

[uncheel]

The Jaguar site just recommends Castrol Edge oil. Guess this would be available outside the dealership.

Jaguar and Castrol Partnership - Co-engineering Quality Oil

Just checked- it is $75 for a 3 pk 5 qt at walmart

At Walmart.com, I see Castrol Edge 0-20 and Castrol Edge Extended 5-20, but no Edge Professional 0-20.

As I recall, the regular Castrol doesn't specify meeting STJLR.51.5122.

You should be able to find some on eBay. There are a few JLR dealers selling on line.

 

[PA-FPace-F]

My plan is to change the oil twice a year. With the maintenance included I, like you guys, will be changing every other one myself or paying for it to be done. i just feel better doing two oil changes a year.

 

[JK8112]

And, you're not like to do it yourself unless you have your own oil extraction setup - there is no drain plug.

My boat has the same set-up. I just went to the hardware store and bought a small pump that attaches to a drill and a few feet of tubing. I think it cost around $30 for the whole thing and it takes only a couple of minutes to get all the oil out. Works great and I would hope that any metal particles would be caught by the filter.

 

[PA-FPace-F]

My boat has the same set-up. I just went to the hardware store and bought a small pump that attaches to a drill and a few feet of tubing. I think it cost around $30 for the whole thing and it takes only a couple of minutes to get all the oil out. Works great and I would hope that any metal particles would be caught by the filter.

I have a Mityvac vacuum pump that was designed specifically to pull oil out of engines. I used it on my gas boat. The diesels on our bigger boat has an extraction system built into it that works on both engines and is powered, it would be nice to have that for the gas setup or built into my garage. the drill method sounds like a great setup as well if you have all the tubes and the drill pump. The pump I have is like a bicycle hand pump and you pump the vacuum up in it and it simply pulls the oil out of the pan using suction. The oil has to be hot but it works well enough. Bought it on Amazon, that is what I'll use when I change the oil myself in the garage.

this is the unit I bought, it's specifically designed for motor oil.

https://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-7400-Liter-Fluid-Evacuator/dp/B000JFJM14/ref=zg_bs_15707821_1

I would recommend it if you are thinking of doing these changes yourself.

 

[Pseudonym]

Guys, enough with the conspiracy theories. Follow the recommended intervals and you'll be fine. JLR isn't going to risk having to replace an engine under warranty because they're trying to save $50 in oil costs.

You're much more likely to have somebody screw up your engine during an oil change than are you to get any benefit by doing it twice as often.

This is going back to when the quick lube joints pounded into our head oil changes every 3k miles were needed.

 

[PA-FPace-F]

No conspiracy theories here, maybe just some OCD with me. I've done this with all my vehicles for ages and never had any issue. I don't plan on changing oil every 3k miles, but I'm also not waiting for 15k since even synthetic oil starts changing color (assuming breaking down) around 7500 miles. I prefer to stay ahead of it. I'm sure it's overkill but I don't care, it's what I would prefer to do and I'm fine with it. I'll be changing the filter then as well.

I'm not pushing this on anyone, I'm sure it's just fine to go 15k between changes if Jag says so, I'm personally just not comfortable with doing that.

 

[JWreck]

Guys, enough with the conspiracy theories. Follow the recommended intervals and you'll be fine. JLR isn't going to risk having to replace an engine under warranty because they're trying to save $50 in oil costs.

You're much more likely to have somebody screw up your engine during an oil change than are you to get any benefit by doing it twice as often.

This is going back to when the quick lube joints pounded into our head oil changes every 3k miles were needed.

Generally, I agree with this mentality. However, remember that manufacturers likely calculate potential warranty costs for the term of whatever warranty is standard (I'm assuming it's more complicated than that, also including extended warranty analysis, etc). Therefore, you could assume that the manufacturer may only really care about getting you past that window. Then it's either on you, or you pay more money for an additional warranty, going through the risk cycle all over again.


Planned obsolescence.