Originally Posted by TLockhart
Got a story from my local service rep. An F-Pace diesel owner put in oil for the first time at 30K miles. And had an engine failure 3K miles later.
Jag denied warranty coverage, and the estimate to replace was over $39K USD. Yeah, that much.
Corporate requires virtually all components to be replaced when replacing an engine. Including fuel rails, injectors, water pump, etc etc etc.
The moral of the story is Don't Miss Maintenance Milestones. You will be screwed if something goes wrong later.
The good news is that this didn't happen to me. The bad news is that when an engine fails later in service life, the cost to replace will far exceed the value of the car.
Well here's the thing... they are kinda both right. If your engine goes for any reason that is not covered, If JLR is going to fix it and warranty it, then they ARE going to want every thing new. It just makes sense. On High Pressure Common rail fuel injection systems, if you crack the lines open or replace injectors etc, These fittings cannot be reused or retightened. They are very fussy about this for them to seal and hold pressure in the extreme pressures they operate at... This ain't your old diesel farm tractor... No where close any more....
If you DID find an indy shop to tackle this, I think you would have a heck of a time sourcing an engine for it, and then by the time they REALLY figured out what it took to replace it, including maybe having to go back and buy parts form the Dealer/Factory to finish the job, (Including mandatorily replacing the fuel rail....) you would be way north of 10K to finally get it replaced and likely... NO WARRANTY.
But here's the positive if you do things right.
1st of all, Change the oil TWICE as often as the 20K they allow for in the free maintenance. It is proven that this oil can run 10K + with no loss of protection qualities, but 20K is pushing it if you want to keep the vehicle longer than warranty. ONLY use JLR dealer supplied/approved Castrol. and JLR filter. it isn't that much, especially if you do it yourself and its easy!
2nd, Change the Fuel Filter every 20K Max. It is the #1 protector of a VERY expensive fuel system, and it is key to keeping the system protected. Fuel Contamination is a huge enemy to diesel injector problems and the filter is the only line between you and big dollar repairs...
If you follow these rules, there is a high probability the Diesel will serve you with a long life and dependability. I believe this engine is one of JLR's strong suits in the era of other issues including ICTP etc... It is honestly one of my least worried about things about this vehicle.
The only thing that can bring it down is the emissions side of the system, and whether there will be DPF plugging/DEF injection issues down the road. These issues are common across all light diesel lines/makers trying to comply with stringent EPA requirements. It will all depend on how robustly the JLR system has been designed.
Diesels are expensive toys, but if handled properly they can reward you with very long life, Lower maintenance costs overall, and economy, long life, and dependability that can't be matched. I have actually toyed with the Idea of buying a 2nd 20D to replace my JGC EcoD if FCA doesn't offer one in 2020. It's just too hard to give up that range, torque, and mileage. There is NO doubt that fuel will be 4.00 + down the road. We are only one world crisis away from that, and they are brewing at any given minute with Iran and the Middle east.. I don't mind paying that if I'm getting 35-40 MPG on it vs 16-20 on Premium @ + .60 cents a gal.. My opinion only...